How does Friedman BE 100's little brother PINK TACO compares to Dirty Shirley's little sister MINI DIRTY SHIRLEY?Thanks to MusiX for the loan of these fantastic amps: Pink taco: http://bit.ly/3limsDU Mini Dirty Shirley: http://bit.ly/38INnUhhttps://www.musix.com/ch/en/Use my affiliate link to get a 15% discount from Bogren Digital IR packs: https://bogrendigital.com/?ref=Z9Abn2UFq4hhDSome of my music (Spotify):- Solo stuff: http://spoti.fi/2JF1FvL- Cyhra: http://spoti.fi/3obAbNt- Red Wolf: http://spoti.fi/3pO6Zwr- Godsplague: http://spoti.fi/2X8POckYou can follow me also on:https://www.facebook.com/eugeofficial/https://www.instagram.com/Euge230V/https://twitter.com/Euge230VCYHRA: http://cyhra.com/Timecodes:- Intro: 0:00- The Song: 0:23- Noodling with both amps | EVH Frankenstrat: 2:32- General info: 4:11- Comparing the amps | EVH Frankenstrat: 6:00- The gear \u0026 signal chain: 10:23- Noodling with both amps | ESP Eclipse: 11:52- The back panels: 13:54- Conclusion: 14:06- How loud they actually are: 14:58#EugeValovirta #Friedman #PinkTacoMiniDirtyShirley In my opinion, unless you need to additional channel or functionality, you're going to get a LOT from the minis and you'll save a ton of cash. Rear panel a bit hard to access. Notably, only the latter can be found on the flagship Pink Taco the first two are new appointments. As it reads basically. Future Publishing Limited Quay House, The Ambury, All rights reserved. Wed love to stay in touch, sign up for The Pick team to contact you with great news, content and offers. An S-Switch alters the gain structure between clean, mid-gain and high-gain settings with a Saturation Switch and Fat Switch further bolstering the versatility. The PT is a good amp, but as others stated, you can try to get Friedman to mod it more in the future also. If you are looking for AFD / ACDC the DSM has that in spades. Years in the making, perfect the sound and tonal experience in a smaller format. To start viewing messages, For what you stated the "Mini DS" would cover best (little closer to Plexi) also the Runt (closer to JCM800) can do the same but with a bit more gain. But it was more fun to flick the gain stages around, roll off all the mids while cranking the treble and bass to 10, or to turn both those dials to zero and the mids to 10, or play with the treble on 10 and the bass/mids off, or just bass. Bath They are all on my list! I am somewhat intrigued by the PT but would only buy a used one when the price comes down. The toggle switches are different, though, with both the head and combo flashing an S-Switch (Gain Structure) and B-Switch (Bright/Tight). Hell, even the Runt 50 is $1800 and you can easily get a used Dual Rec for that much and then some. I have cranked both the Mini Shirley and Pink Taco with the DS cab and the PT cab. Friedman Announces the BE-Mini - Premier Guitar , Friedman Releases Pink Taco V2 Heads & Combos - Premier Guitar , First Look: Dunlop Cry Baby Daredevil Fuzz Wah, Dunlop and Daredevil Pedals Collab on Cry Baby Daredevil Fuzz Wah, Slave to Sirens: Lebanons First All-Female Thrash-Metal Band. Just my 2 cents, my opinion, take it for what it's worth. I can't imagine you'd need another Fender along with that. The Mini feels as if it could take a plunge at a load-in and still start right up (at least after the rush of horror from dropping a $1,799 amp faded). And these are such simple amps, a good tech could crank out 5 - 10 of these a day easy (which bty, Friedman out sources). Heres how it works. I'm from the USA and should go to Brazil ! You're looking at $999 for a Mesa mini vs $2700 for a Dirty Shirley. My DSM isn't going anywhere. In other words, check my work please!! Friedman Dirty Shirley 40 - 40-watt Tube Head 1-channel, 40-watt Guitar Tube Amplifier Head with Custom Transformers, 3-band EQ, and Effects Loop . Friedman. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Pink Taco V2. I keep see people describing the DSM as AC/DC, which to me is a very open chord classic rock kinda sound, with less gain. The new Friedman Little Sister Head is an updated Mini Dirty Shirley, and the Pink Taco V2 does the same for the Pink Taco head. So depends on what you like to play. Friedman. Oh and by the way. Again, the combo differs only with the appointment of a Celestion 16 Ohm 12 G12M-65 Creamback speaker. Has about the same gain as the BE100 BE channel.. 1299.00 also Has a great cab sim out and the 20 has a built in load, so you can use it with no cab if needed. I've played a Runt 50 and they are great. rocknrollrelic Frets: 39. Nov 20, 2020. #1. $339.99 Your Preferred Price Friedman. DSM! lwk5150; Jul 8, 2017; Member Classifieds; Replies 2 Views 481. Flip the toggle downwards, with the master and the gain in the same spot, and youre deep in Marshallville, with opulently ripe mids and a profile that reminded me of Ritchie Blackmores epic early-70s sound. Jul 11, 2017. lwk5150. From the Pete Thorn video above it's clearly great for harmonically rich Eddie Van Halen tones. Playing a rough-and-tumble gig in a small room with no amp miking, the Mini blasted along with my trio loud and clear . What are you waiting for. The panel for the returns and speaker outs is a bit awkward. Hope this helps. It may not display this or other websites correctly. All times are GMT-7. Visit our corporate site (opens in new tab). How Jeff Beck passed the Telecaster torch to Jimmy Page and changed the course of rock history, Nuno Bettencourt says Prince once called him one of the top three guitar players in the world. How about a Scumback Black back 65? In all its annoying bright honking spongy goodness. Any guitarist who has lugged around 4x12s, Super Reverbs, or other heavy-ass combos and stacks in search of big, meaty tones can appreciate the trend toward small amps that snarl. it was designed with that in mind. BA1 1UA. Friedman's Pink Taco V2 amp head will set you back $1,499, while the combo version carries a price tag of $1,799. Should I sell the 20 for an Orange Tiny Terror? I've got 60 guitarsbut 49 trumpets is justINSANITY! Friedman Pink Taco V2 Guitar Amp Head. $269.99 Your Preferred Price The Gear Page is the leading online community and marketplace for guitars, amps, pedals, effects and associated gear. You must log in or register to reply here. Has anyone here tried both? If you're a tech with access, you often sign agreements you'll only use them for repair work etc. #2. It's all about vintage classic rock tones, with less of the high-gain action of the Taco. Dave's first production amplifier, the BE-100, is criticality acclaimed and one on the most in demand British high gain meets vintage amps on the market today. JavaScript is disabled. The MkII is the latest version of that single-channel rock machine with a single gain and added switches to flexibility. The combo option features Celestion 16 Ohm 12 G12M-65 Creamback speaker (Combo) with the weight for that coming in at 45lbs and 22lbs for the head. If I understand correctly the PT20 has more gain than the Dirty Shirley Mini? Ozzy Osbourne names his dream supergroup and it features three guitarists, Joe Bonamassa plays AC/DCs Back in Black like youve never heard it before in this soulful rhythm n blues reimagining, The Lowlist: INXS's Kick was the sound of a rock band taking on modern technology. Its the little sister of Friedman Amplifications Dirty Shirley combo, which clocks in at 40 watts and 52 pounds, with a single 12" Celestion G12M Creamback speaker. All three of those settings are loud! But thats easily overcome with practice, and clearly that design choice helped keep the Mini mini. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. No reverb. Help needed verifying plate dissipation/Cathode resistor value for 6V6. It may not display this or other websites correctly. You are using an out of date browser. The DSM has many tones available and AC/DC is most definitely one of them. Thank you for reading 5 articles this month*, US pricing $3.99 per month or $39.00 per year, UK pricing 2.99 per month or 29.00 per year, Europe pricing 3.49 per month or 34.00 per year, *Read 5 free articles per month without a subscription. They are here to help. Afraid I can't get to Wildwood. I recommend the Creamback over the Greenback for the mini Shirley, but other way around for the Pink Taco. DSM almost seems to have more clarity with a bit of low-end girth and punchy mids, just classic rock and blues tones for days. The Pink Taco gets great reviews & it also runs the EL84 Power Tubes, so I can't see any issues with the Dirty Shirley Mini running EL84's. Have a look at the comments that Brett (Brettk7 - Eddie's Guitars) made about the DS Mini on this Forum. Been eying the pink taco amp for a while but just noticed the dirty Shirley mini. If your looking to get the same tones in a smaller package I'd say either the PT20 or Runt 20. Friedman's definitely have that British Marshall sound and definitely a nice twangy clean channel as well, definitely more mid-range sound wise. The Runt, from what I've heard of pricing, will still be $400-500 more than the minis. The Smallbox is my favorite amp of all time. Back at the homestead after the gig, I pulled three guitars: a modern Zuzu with coil-tapping, an early-70s Fender Strat with the requisite single-coils, and an early-90s Les Paul Classic. Amp guru Dave Friedmans latest, the Dirty Shirley Mini, is a new addition to that genus. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. ($400). . You must log in or register to reply here. The biggest difference between the Mini and full size DS in terms of tonality and feel is the tube-type. One can never have too many amps!! I got GAS for a Friedman and not sure on the main adv and disadv of a PT vs Runt 20. Sorry Marshall I'll take a Dirty Shirley any day of the week Lol! Run for the f**king hills, Freddie Mercurys Martin D-35, reportedly used to write and record Crazy Little Thing Called Love, is going up for auction, Kirk Hammett explains why he uses wah so much: "I can't think of anybody who uses the wah pedal as much as I do I'm not ashamed of it", Michael Anthony confirms there is a huge archive of unreleased Van Halen material, Sting will play a guitar made from migrant boat wood and built by inmates at an Italian jail housing mafia bosses, Paul Gilbert explains why 21-fret guitars can actually deliver higher notes than 24-fret models, Cory Wong and Wampler unite for the Wong Compressor the most versatile compressor that has ever existed. Friedman Runt 20 and Runt 50 - A/B Test and full review, WTS: Friedman Pink Taco PT-20 20 watt amp head, SOLD - Friedman PT-20 Pink Taco - V1 with gain structure switch - SOLD, are Gibson Les Pauls mainly for collectors? Other universal appointments include an ultra-transparent series FX loop and hand-crafted cabinetry. I own a BE, Dirty Shirley 40, Dirty Shirley Mini and incoming Smallbox. Aug 27, 2017. When hes not combining his passion for writing and music during his day job, Matt records for a number of UK-based bands and songwriters as a session musician. check out the FAQ by clicking the Friedman BE-Mini Guitar Amp Head. Guitar World is part of Future plc, an international media group and leading digital publisher. To my ears, the results sounded a little more harmonically rich and lush. On its own.Friedman is better, warmer. I bring it back and forth to our practice space because I need it at home. I'm the Guitars Editor for MusicRadar, handling news, reviews, features, tuition, advice for the strings side of the site and everything in between. Must work with loud drummer at practise and for live gigs on places like for 50-300 people. A little brighter and edgier and don't have quite the warmth and swirl of the smallbox or BE but its in the ballpark. England and Wales company registration number 2008885. And the Marshall sounds exactly like an 800. The Shirley is no retiring kid sister. The Mini is comparatively bantamweightjust 30 pounds and pumping 20 watts of output through a 10", 25-watt Celestion Greenback. We already know Dave Friedman's modded take on Marshall tones results in some incredible rock toneage so bringing it to more people with the latest Pink Taco Mk II and Little Sister 20-watt tube amps is great news. He has a Masters in the guitar, a degree in history, and has spent the last 16 years playing everything from blues and jazz to indie and pop. And the Friedman.well it could have been a Peavey or a solid state amp at that point. There I said it haha. I've played a PT20. Its an ultra-compact 9 1/2 x 15 1/2 x 16 1/2. I missed the standby function when switching instruments, but my tuner pedal did the job amiably. Thats what the builder recommends in the manual, identifying that setting as the Friedman sound. I began with the gain/master at 5/5, and once I cranked the gain to 7, Id have been perfectly content if Id never touched a dial or switch again. The PT seems to have a bit less bottom end and a bit more upper mid sizzle to it. Your Preferred Price Friedman. Said to supply the BE-100s classic Friedman sound in a small, compact and lightweight package, the Pink Taco V2 head is according to the company a 20-watt EL84 single-channel fire breather, with a particular sonic penchant for blues, classic rock and metal. Angus tone is closer to the DS, Slash (JCM800 . For years I've used mic's placed in front of the speaker (which is still a good format) and I was looking to improve recording tones in my home studio, it's not as plush and refined as a pro studio but I can get really great results, which I also do clients material that send me wav.files then load them to my DAW. I can never have enough gain. Messages. All are welcome, from seasoned pros to absolute beginners. This may help you decide. Didn't bond with it. If you want some cleans and plenty of gain that covers blues to even metal with the bass off and gain dimed, the DS Mini would be the obvious choice, cause it can be dialed in for most all tones. I returned it after a month. I've seen a few pictures out on the interwebs of someone reverse engineering the Dirty . Visit our corporate site (opens in new tab). It may not display this or other websites correctly. The low end of the Mini Shirley seems to be a little pickier about speakers than the Pink Taco. Boutique guitar amp builder Friedman has unveiled the latest additions to its amp head and combo catalogs: the Pink Taco V2 and Little Sister. The Mini is comparatively bantamweightjust 30 pounds and pumping 20 watts of output through a 10", 25-watt Celestion Greenback. Nice amp, but I was disappointed, nothing special IMO. Black. You are using an out of date browser. FriedmanLittle Sister Head $1,499.99 It's all about vintage classic rock tones, with less of the high-gain action of the Taco. Friedman NoHo 24 Electric Guitar - Blue Jean . But, both are amazing, IMO. Mr Thorn has helpfully demoed this one too, and proves again why he's one of the very best demo players in the business, pointing out how the Little Sister is pretty much a replacement for the previous mini Dirty Shirley with the added Bright switch of the two-channel Twin Sister. Thoughts? Prince thought so, Watch Joe Bonamassa sit in with Scary Pockets and Joanna Jones for a funkified cover of Back In Black, Taylor and Original Grain Watches team up for some very classy wrist candy incorporating the high-end acoustic brands Urban Ironbark. It's so hard to tell on youtube though. #55. When Nashville got one of the first DSM amps in, I spend hours AB'ing both PT20 and the then new DSM. Kind of like the Marshall SV-20 and SC-20, maybe? Highlights from the new drop include the extra voicing switches of the Pink Taco V2, amping up its predecessor's feature set, and some new sleek aesthetics. Matt is a Staff Writer, writing for Guitar World, Guitarist and Total Guitar. Future Publishing Limited Quay House, The Ambury, Bath I can wait. But, to make that comparison I would say the Mini DS is much more friendly to quiet environments than a Z (which I would say the opposite of). Angus tone is closer to the DS, Slash (JCM800/Jubilee) DS to Runt, but now his song "You should be mine" from the Terminator movie would be closer to the Pink Taco. Many of the above appointments can be found here, such as the two EL84 power tubes and three 12AX7 preamp tubes, as well as a fairly straightforward control set comprising Bass, Middle, Treble, Master and Gain parameters. I clarified that. Get the latest and greatest Guitar news with one of our guitar magazine subscriptions. These 3 guitar beauties from Friedman have a lot in common, not only names or visual appearance i.e. The Little Sister and Pink Taco Mk II are both available in head and combo models. I had a DSM. Cons: I've found it really helps to get a "Cleaner" overall tone with way less artifacts. Like the Pink Taco Mk II it's an EL84 powered, single-channel head or 1x12 combo based on its 40-watt predecessor with an S-Switch for the gain structure and this time a B Switch to switch between Bright and Tight modes that will take you into harder rock territory. England and Wales company registration number 2008885. The Pink Taco V2 amp head is the latest iteration of the Pink Taco, which in turn was inspired by Friedmans first production amplifier, the critically acclaimed BE-100. L *SOLD* FRIEDMAN Pink Taco PT-20 MINT. Brandon Ellis laid down the gauntlet to Jacksons Master Builders with this 27-fret Gold Crackle Kelly is this one of the most challenging custom builds ever made? Try before you buy or make sure you can get a refund. Friedman Dirty Shirley 1X12 Cab. JCM 2000 DSL 50 - Perfect amp for me - Late to the party! I feel the amp shines on lower gain side but can do higher gain on its own as well. Just listen to Pete Thorn's demo of the Pink Taco 20-watt head "no pedal required" indeed! I love my DSM. It's an ultra-compact 9 1/2" x 15 1/2" x 16 1/2". For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Some of the add-ons on this site are powered by. Also, the tubes are mounted horizontally to save space. Friedman Pink Taco 20 Watt Head - 2018 Version Friedman Dirty Shirley 1x12 Cab $ 599.00 . I don't know what low gain means. All sounded fully and correctly voiced via the Dirty Shirley Minis Celestion, although the power, tonal depth, and sustain the amp exhibited with humbuckers was truly a joy. A British-flavoured vintage take on high-gain, the Pink Taco takes that concept forward in a compact and light format. select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. You are using an out of date browser. size. You may have to register 3-position gain structure switch for toggling between modern and vintage tones. The Taco has such an immediacy to the attack. The Pink Taco is the little baby sister to the BE . Is Nuno Bettencourt one of the top three guitar players in the world? The power switch is a simple on/off with no standby. I was never able to get much from the Pink Taco unless it was louder than home practice volume. I've had two tacos and two runts(50 and now a 20). An 'ultra-transparent series FX loop' welcomes your time-based effects pedals to the party and there's 4, 8 and 16 ohm jacks. JavaScript is disabled. Friedman Pink Taco 20W 110 Tube Guitar Combo Amp. It's available as an all-tube head or 1x12 combo and features a pair of x EL84 power tubes, a trio of 12AX7 preamp tubes, master volume and gain controls plus a three-band EQ. I haven't played a Maz in a dozen years though, at only loud house volumes, and I don't have a very good memory, sorry. From my experience still owning a BE100 and was looking for the best Friedman 20 watter that had more open classic tone and an amp I can get a killer blues and rock tones out of, I went with the Dirty Shirley Mini. If this is your first visit, be sure to JavaScript is disabled. I am thinking of getting a friedman mini and wanted to ask which one for the best old VH tone and what celestion gels best with these heads? Videos coming this month while thinks are shipping to stores.. You must log in or register to reply here. And the Mini sounded really strong in my home practice space. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Making use of customized transformers, the head has been designed to sound like a much larger 100-watt EL-34 monster, promising both a tight bottom end and mid-range. Friedman will add those mods if you like. Both my Brown Eye and Pink Taco are 240v and work and sound fab! That amp is such a tone monster, I'd always feel like the mini was a waste of money. I personally just picked up a DS 40 head and I LOVE IT. perplexied. $$. JavaScript is disabled. There's a couple good Youtube videos of the PT vs DSM on Youtube. If I love the 2203..which Friedman will I love? No reverb, no line out, not even a standby switch. Good luck. But in the mix.the Marshall slayed. (I did, and the answer is very!). Re: Friedman Dirty Shirley Mini VS Pink Taco. Generally it is quite hard, if not near impossible to get schematics on current run amps. FriedmanLittle Sister Combo $1,799.99, FriedmanPink Taco V2 Head $1,499.99 Tech experts from Seymour Duncan are regularly on this forum, and are clearly labeled as employees of Seymour Duncan. Although different tubes and rectifier in Dirty Sh. Runt is pcb constructed and you get a discount for it. I know the Runt has the XLR stuff, but I'm curious on your take on which one is better for you. November 2013. I would guess the PT to be more different. This aims to redefine what an EL84-powered amp can deliver. Making these already great-sounding tube amps even more flexible. (or not gigging). JavaScript is disabled. I own a BE, Dirty Shirley 40, Dirty Shirley Mini and incoming Smallbox. Therefore, it may be a bit of a stretch. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Black. Mighty but small. MusicRadar is part of Future plc, an international media group and leading digital publisher. My Les Paul is the leading online community and marketplace for Les Paul guitar fans. From my experience still owning a BE100 and was looking for the best Friedman 20 watter that had more open classic tone and an amp I can get a killer blues and rock tones out of, I went with the Dirty Shirley Mini. The Pink Taco in the lowest gain setting I would say is more in the ballpark of the Studio Vintage than the Mini Dirty Shirley. You are using an out of date browser. OK, I know a little bit about both amps and this is what I can tell you. Heres how it works. Although quick research states assembled in USA which is kind of confusing. Before MusicRadar I worked on guitar magazines for 15 years, including Editor of Total Guitar. I've played a Runt 50 and they are great. The Pink Taco came out at $1499 and the cab was $599 but both are well worth the money. For what you stated the "Mini DS" would cover best (little closer to Plexi) also the Runt (closer to JCM800) can do the same but with a bit more gain. They're loud man. It'll have more headroom too, and with 2 6L6's, the cleans may eliminate your need for another amp. The Official Marshall Studio Classic Thread Sc20. I know a regular Dirty Shirley has amazing cleans with just the volume knob. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission. With each arriving in both amp head and combo formats, the brand's newest offerings update its existing Mini Dirty Shirley and Pink Taco units, promising to provide a swathe of versatile tonal options. Maybe the boards are made elsewhere? Amped-up iterations of the Mini Dirty Shirley and BE-100-inspired Pink Taco feature two EL84 power tubes, a trio of 12AX7 preamp tubes and a host of new voices. But sometimes its not possible, and in this case, I'm trying to choose the best option. How does Friedman BE 100's little brother PINK TACO compares to Dirty Shirley's little sister MINI DIRTY SHIRLEY?Thanks to MusiX for the loan of these fantas. Damn, the agony of choice continues. Re: Friedman schematics. Friedman Amplification Dirty Shirley Minifriedmanamplification.com. Hand wired is over rated. The Pink Taco V2 is Dave's latest version of the 20-watt EL84 powered single channel fire breather. Both USA-made models offer head and and combo options. If your looking to get the same tones in a smaller package I'd say either the PT20 or Runt 20. Ive played all three and the DSM smokes them all! You must log in or register to reply here. Mar 6, 2015. I don't think it sounds like the BE side of the Smallbox. The Saturation circuit allows for more of an aggressive metal tone. As a subscriber enjoy big savings off the shop price! You must log in or register to reply here. Under the hoodor, at least, inside the well-built Baltic birch cabinetis an effects send/return and additional 8-ohm and 16-ohm speaker outs. All that said. Control-wise, its straightforward a three-band EQ lines up alongside Master and Gain parameters, with the three toggle switches serving as Saturation, Fat and S (Gain Structure) switches. 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The USA-built cab features tongue and groove Baltic Birch construction, and the combo houses a 16 ohm, 12 Celestion Creamback G12M-65 speaker. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Friedman's Pink Taco V2 amp head will set you back $1,499, while the combo version carries a price tag of $1,799. A little brighter and edgier and don't have quite the warmth and swirl of the smallbox or BE but its . For more information, visit Friedman (opens in new tab).
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